Comments on: VSS and VMware ESX: What your VMware backup vendor isn’t telling you http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html The Veeam Team Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:02:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Great VSS Debate « VeeamMeUp http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html/comment-page-1#comment-437 The Great VSS Debate « VeeamMeUp Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:17:20 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you/#comment-437 [...] 2007 (2) Veeam and Free ESXi - it's official now (22)VSS and VMware ESX: What your VMware backup vendor isn’t telling you (6)VMworld Europe (6)Veeam announces commitment to Hyper-V (5)VMworld Golden Gate Run (5)Who is the [...] [...] 2007 (2) Veeam and Free ESXi – it's official now (22)VSS and VMware ESX: What your VMware backup vendor isn’t telling you (6)VMworld Europe (6)Veeam announces commitment to Hyper-V (5)VMworld Golden Gate Run (5)Who is the [...]

]]> By: Martin http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html/comment-page-1#comment-435 Martin Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:26:30 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you/#comment-435 Dear Paul, have you ever tried to restore all dcs in a domain at the same time ? I tried to create a test environment by restoring the veeam-backups of all our 3 production dcs to vmware workstation (using the vm-copy backup method in veeam-backup). Everything seemed to work according your restore video. My problem was that on all the restored dcs the sysvol and netlogon shares were missing. I think the problem is that after the restore all dcs are in a non-authoritative state. I found the following kb-articel http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316790/en-us which deals with this problem. I followed the kb-article but was not able to get the netlogon-share up. The sysvol-share appeared, but when I tried to start the netlogo-service I got an error message that the folder C:\windows\sysvol\sysvol\lra-deg.local\scripts does not exist. Greetings Martin Dear Paul,

have you ever tried to restore all dcs in a domain at the same time ?

I tried to create a test environment by restoring the veeam-backups of all our 3 production dcs to vmware workstation (using the vm-copy backup method in veeam-backup).

Everything seemed to work according your restore video.

My problem was that on all the restored dcs the sysvol and netlogon shares were missing.

I think the problem is that after the restore all dcs are in a non-authoritative state.

I found the following kb-articel

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316790/en-us

which deals with this problem.

I followed the kb-article but was not able to get the netlogon-share up.
The sysvol-share appeared, but when I tried to start the netlogo-service I got an error message that the folder

C:\windows\sysvol\sysvol\lra-deg.local\scripts

does not exist.

Greetings Martin

]]> By: Paul http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html/comment-page-1#comment-266 Paul Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:00 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you/#comment-266 Veeam v4 VSS integration module supports Exchange 2007 and SQL 2008 hot backups fine. We've been running v4 for over a month now, and we are performing backup testing weekly (restoring backups to test environment), it's been flawless for us. Veeam v4 VSS integration module supports Exchange 2007 and SQL 2008 hot backups fine. We’ve been running v4 for over a month now, and we are performing backup testing weekly (restoring backups to test environment), it’s been flawless for us.

]]> By: Frank http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html/comment-page-1#comment-165 Frank Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:46:32 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you/#comment-165 I would be very happy if you would update your test (or add it as second one) in which you take a detailed look to the new version 4 with support of vStorage API under an environment with ESX / vSphere 4 Enterprise against your competitors. We must find the a solution for our planned new environment with 3 or 4 ESX Enterprise Servers while next month - at january 2010 the new servers should be ready to run and we must find and buy the best solution for it before! In our actual (very old) environment with physical servers we use Symantec BackupExec v12. They offer also an addon to backup ESX-Servers / VMs. But is it a good idea or was another solution a better choice? We try in moment the new solution from Acronis, "Backup & Recovery" v10, a week ago we have seen a presentation about the bundle of a quantum DXi (with dedup) and esXpress which works as virtual appliances and it looks / sounds very smart. Some weeks ago we tested your product in version 3.5. A big point for us is the support for MS SQL 2005 / 2008 and Exchange 2007. You make a test with a Domain-Controller for your article above and show / write that it works. Can Veeam Backup v4 also create (and restore!) consistent backups of SQL- and EXC-Servers? What is with their logfiles? While a "normal" backup with integrated mechanism of the SQL-Server I can cut them after writing the .bak-files. Is this also possible when I use Veeam Backup with VSS? And what's the right way for Exchange? It was good if you can create a perfect backup with Veeam Backup but I can't restore the full server normally - that's the way for a real big desaster. In all other cases I'll surely need only one mailbox or one mail in one mailbox... I would be very happy if you would update your test (or add it as second one) in which you take a detailed look to the new version 4 with support of vStorage API under an environment with ESX / vSphere 4 Enterprise against your competitors.

We must find the a solution for our planned new environment with 3 or 4 ESX Enterprise Servers while next month – at january 2010 the new servers should be ready to run and we must find and buy the best solution for it before!

In our actual (very old) environment with physical servers we use Symantec BackupExec v12. They offer also an addon to backup ESX-Servers / VMs. But is it a good idea or was another solution a better choice? We try in moment the new solution from Acronis, “Backup & Recovery” v10, a week ago we have seen a presentation about the bundle of a quantum DXi (with dedup) and esXpress which works as virtual appliances and it looks / sounds very smart. Some weeks ago we tested your product in version 3.5.

A big point for us is the support for MS SQL 2005 / 2008 and Exchange 2007. You make a test with a Domain-Controller for your article above and show / write that it works. Can Veeam Backup v4 also create (and restore!) consistent backups of SQL- and EXC-Servers? What is with their logfiles? While a “normal” backup with integrated mechanism of the SQL-Server I can cut them after writing the .bak-files. Is this also possible when I use Veeam Backup with VSS? And what’s the right way for Exchange? It was good if you can create a perfect backup with Veeam Backup but I can’t restore the full server normally – that’s the way for a real big desaster. In all other cases I’ll surely need only one mailbox or one mail in one mailbox…

]]> By: Doug Hazelman http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html/comment-page-1#comment-10 Doug Hazelman Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:26:00 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you/#comment-10 Gahadir,<br/><br/>Veeam does not Require VCB, you can also do a service console based backup of standard ESX servers. Veeam has it's own implementation of VSS or you can opt to us the VSS enabler that comes with the latest VMTools through VCB.<br/><br/>a1) Veeam does not support sending data directly to a tape device unless that device presents itself as a drive or network share that the Windows server can connect to. Veeam does have a post job script ability to kickoff a tape backup once the job completes<br/><br/>a2) File level recovery is done directly from the backup file (image). At this time the individual files are not cataloged (since they're not individually backed up) but Veeam provides an easy to use explorer like interface to browse for the files. Gahadir,

Veeam does not Require VCB, you can also do a service console based backup of standard ESX servers. Veeam has it’s own implementation of VSS or you can opt to us the VSS enabler that comes with the latest VMTools through VCB.

a1) Veeam does not support sending data directly to a tape device unless that device presents itself as a drive or network share that the Windows server can connect to. Veeam does have a post job script ability to kickoff a tape backup once the job completes

a2) File level recovery is done directly from the backup file (image). At this time the individual files are not cataloged (since they’re not individually backed up) but Veeam provides an easy to use explorer like interface to browse for the files.

]]> By: Bahadir http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html/comment-page-1#comment-9 Bahadir Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:05:00 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you/#comment-9 veeam needs VCB infrastructure in order to perform snapshot based VMDK backups. by using the VCB version 1.5 and VSS enabler that comes with the latest VMTools, VSS aware applications inside VMs can be backed up in a consistent manner.<br/><br/>q1: i wonder if veeam supports sending backups to a tape device?<br/><br/>q2: for file based restores from VMDKs, how/where do you keep related catalog info? veeam needs VCB infrastructure in order to perform snapshot based VMDK backups. by using the VCB version 1.5 and VSS enabler that comes with the latest VMTools, VSS aware applications inside VMs can be backed up in a consistent manner.

q1: i wonder if veeam supports sending backups to a tape device?

q2: for file based restores from VMDKs, how/where do you keep related catalog info?

]]> By: bhanu http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you.html/comment-page-1#comment-8 bhanu Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:24:00 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/2008/08/vss-and-vmware-esx-what-your-vmware-backup-vendor-isn%e2%80%99t-telling-you/#comment-8 hi<br/><br/>thats an excellent article and the reason why you dont see any body else talking about they are not many who wrote about it. You have started that and people would follow.<br/><br/>i am putting your link on my blog too.<br/><br/>bhanu hi

thats an excellent article and the reason why you dont see any body else talking about they are not many who wrote about it. You have started that and people would follow.

i am putting your link on my blog too.

bhanu

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