Comments on: Veeam and Free ESXi – it’s official now http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html The Veeam Team Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:09:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: John White http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-90 John White Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:18:48 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-90 The discontinued support for ESXi is really screwing up what was a great DR solution for SMB's and others who have a Single VMWare server and just 2 to 3 physical servers it gave a great solution at a low cost. In the current economic climate this is a very big step back by Veeam to cave in to VMware pressure and an even larger step back by VMware. VMware had a great chance to fight Microsoft by seeding the market but GREED and SHAREHOLDERS seem to be taking priority over clients and the future of the product. I will just add remember Digital Research and Novell. The discontinued support for ESXi is really screwing up what was a great DR solution for SMB’s and others who have a Single VMWare server and just 2 to 3 physical servers it gave a great solution at a low cost.
In the current economic climate this is a very big step back by Veeam to cave in to VMware pressure and an even larger step back by VMware.

VMware had a great chance to fight Microsoft by seeding the market but GREED and SHAREHOLDERS seem to be taking priority over clients and the future of the product.

I will just add remember Digital Research and Novell.

]]> By: Joe http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-62 Joe Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:44:06 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-62 Vmware = EMC EMC = normous onetary osts Just finished an Email Archive solution RFP, EMC was a finalist.... The only company more arrogant IMHO is Micro$oft. I wish VMware had never sold out! Vmware = EMC
EMC = normous onetary osts

Just finished an Email Archive solution RFP, EMC was a finalist…. The only company more arrogant IMHO is Micro$oft.

I wish VMware had never sold out!

]]> By: Joel http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-53 Joel Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:28:06 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-53 ...or, even better... release the bits that use the "unsupported API" as open source, via an "unaffiliated" company/person. Make it a plug-in for your product. I'll keep my mouth shut, I swear! ;-) …or, even better… release the bits that use the “unsupported API” as open source, via an “unaffiliated” company/person. Make it a plug-in for your product.

I’ll keep my mouth shut, I swear!

;-)

]]> By: Joel http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-52 Joel Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:20:11 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-52 Sucks. I was on my way over to Veeam to purchase a couple of copies of backup as I have two single server environments running ESXi Free. Guess I'm SOL. Shame on VMWare. I'm a huge VMWare fan and we run Enterprise in our data centers, but I have a couple of SMB and charities as clients that just don't want/need to spend the money on ESXi licenses. They only have one server... why do the need to pay for 6 sockets. Dumb... Don't they deserve a decent backup product, or is their data not important? Short-sighted and arrogant of VMWare. I have to admit that although I understand the motiviation, I'm more than a bit disappointed in Veeam for caving. Just to ensure that VMWare sees the errors in its ways, please be sure to add support for Xen, Hyper-V, and any additional free hypervisors that seem reasonable. J Sucks.

I was on my way over to Veeam to purchase a couple of copies of backup as I have two single server environments running ESXi Free. Guess I’m SOL. Shame on VMWare. I’m a huge VMWare fan and we run Enterprise in our data centers, but I have a couple of SMB and charities as clients that just don’t want/need to spend the money on ESXi licenses. They only have one server… why do the need to pay for 6 sockets. Dumb…

Don’t they deserve a decent backup product, or is their data not important?

Short-sighted and arrogant of VMWare. I have to admit that although I understand the motiviation, I’m more than a bit disappointed in Veeam for caving.

Just to ensure that VMWare sees the errors in its ways, please be sure to add support for Xen, Hyper-V, and any additional free hypervisors that seem reasonable.

J

]]> By: H in OH http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-49 H in OH Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:23:02 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-49 "This combination costs exactly the same amount of money as purchasing 6 sockets of Veeam Backup at regular list price for use with free ESXi, but it is actually better..." What if you don't need 6 sockets? What if you only need one or two? ESXi free and Veeam Backup were looking like a great combo that we were just starting to experiment with. Forget it now. A smart idea on both companies' parts would be to at least allow Veeam Backup to work with ESXi free for licenses of one or two sockets (or pick any other number less than six). ---H “This combination costs exactly the same amount of money as purchasing 6 sockets of Veeam Backup at regular list price for use with free ESXi, but it is actually better…”

What if you don’t need 6 sockets? What if you only need one or two? ESXi free and Veeam Backup were looking like a great combo that we were just starting to experiment with. Forget it now.

A smart idea on both companies’ parts would be to at least allow Veeam Backup to work with ESXi free for licenses of one or two sockets (or pick any other number less than six).

—H

]]> By: kevin http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-46 kevin Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:31:23 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-46 For a small business combo, vmware esxi / veeam backup looked to be an ideal combo. However, now that this option is no longer available, xenserver is back on the table leaving veeam highly vulnerable to a lost sale. For a small business combo, vmware esxi / veeam backup looked to be an ideal combo. However, now that this option is no longer available, xenserver is back on the table leaving veeam highly vulnerable to a lost sale.

]]> By: steve http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-40 steve Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:22:58 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-40 I believe VMWare wanted to dominate the business. ESXi was a strategy meant to capture many SMB into the trap that VMWare setup long ago. The intention was for SMB to go into it and use it for production. They know that you need a good backup tool like Veeam, VRanger Pro. I might be wrong. However it's seems the stragegy works now and suprises many SMB. I am in the same shoe as well. I have not find a good tool to backup Citrix Xen Server. I will definately move to Citrix Xen Server if there is one available good backup tool for it. I do hope Veeam will extend it tools to backup Citrix Xen VM's and also Hyper-V as well since many customer from SMB needs it. It's a bad thing that Veeam it's just a follower and servant to VMWare. I believe VMWare wanted to dominate the business.
ESXi was a strategy meant to capture many SMB into the trap that VMWare setup long ago. The intention was for SMB to go into it and use it for production. They know that you need a good backup tool like Veeam, VRanger Pro.

I might be wrong. However it’s seems the stragegy works now and suprises many SMB.

I am in the same shoe as well. I have not find a good tool to backup Citrix Xen Server.

I will definately move to Citrix Xen Server if there is one available good backup tool for it.

I do hope Veeam will extend it tools to backup Citrix Xen VM’s and also Hyper-V as well since many customer from SMB needs it.

It’s a bad thing that Veeam it’s just a follower and servant to VMWare.

]]> By: VeeamMeUp » Blog Archive » New Veeam Essentials Bundle http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-35 VeeamMeUp » Blog Archive » New Veeam Essentials Bundle Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:29:10 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-35 [...] The comments to my post on the original announcement [...] [...] The comments to my post on the original announcement [...]

]]> By: vmdoug http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-34 vmdoug Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:56:34 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-34 @Pete - Sorry to hear that. Lost sale for VMware or lost sale for Veeam? What direction will you be going now, just curious. @Pete – Sorry to hear that. Lost sale for VMware or lost sale for Veeam? What direction will you be going now, just curious.

]]> By: Pete http://veeammeup.com/2009/06/veeam-and-free-esxi.html/comment-page-1#comment-33 Pete Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:40:07 +0000 http://veeammeup.com/?p=42#comment-33 Ouch, chalk up a lost sale here then. Ouch, chalk up a lost sale here then.

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